Donn,
"Good" and "evil" are relative concepts...MY absolute "evil", obviously, is not yours. And obviously MY absolute "good" isn’t yours either. Finally, I AM concerned about voter fraud...when the elections committees have done their job and found "fraud" they can prosecute it. But again, who knows what’s true and what’s being reported as truth or even if there is ANY truth in the reports. We can not trust our media sources, some are controlled by the Republicans and some are controlled by the Dems and everyone’s doing what they do best, muddying the waters. I am NOT like you... I cant say "oooooh...LOOK...the Democrats have some potentially fraudulent voters registrations... BURN 'EM"... because, like I said, I remember no such outrage coming from you when GW was guilty of it in 2000 and 2004 and they never even did any real investigations. The one or two Fed Prosecutors that DID look into it were fired by the GW Administration for behaving in a non-political manner. Again, you keep claiming you’re not a Republican but you fall, hand over foot, to defend him when his positions are defenseless. As for Obama, this is where you guys get ridiculous, ALL these guys give monies to voters drive registration groups, yes, even Republicans and media, the so called "liberal media" which is OWNED by right wingers that control content, nary says a word when the right is caught doing the same. For instance, there's John McCain whining about how much money Obama took from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but NO one is pointing out that HIS campaign took nearly 30,000 a week from them for almost 2 years. The relative truth is CORPORATIONS GREASE BOTH SIDES and the side with the power gets the most, but they grease BOTH sides. You want a law completely outlawing corporate influence on Congress?? I'll go along with that 100% ...NEITHER side will, EVER!!! I'd do it like they do it in China, it’s a CAPITAL OFFENSE. But I’m realistic neither side will do it because THEY (politicians and corporations) control the votes, they control the media and they won’t ever take monies out of their own pockets. Finally, you can say what you want about Clinton, when he left, our country was in the best shape it had been in years, 7 years of right wing policy have completely turned everything into the worst mess I have seen in my lifetime. Two wars, one against a country that never attacked us and wasn’t threatening us. The biggest budget fiasco I have seen in years. The banking industry running rampant under deregulation and collapsing under their own bad investments and gambling and, your boy McCain, proposing that the government buy EVERY bad mortgage at FULL VALUE and making US, the taxpayer take the hit and, in actuality, bailing out those corporate executives at the full, inflated value ( I actually laughed at him when he proposed THAT at the debates .. he said That’s MY plan, not Bush's and NOT Obama’s MY plan). At LEAST, Obama's plan of requiring the industry to renegotiate the loans to help the homeowners certainly seems more palatable than rewarding the predatory lenders. MAKE em work together and not be at odds with each other. I’m sorry, I WISH that GW had found a 22 year old intern to screw rather than having him stand there at the top and continue to screw us all.
Marx
Marx,
Damn! You are incorrigible! John McCaine is NOT “my boy.” I don’t think I’ve said anything about Bill Clinton, either.
More importantly: Good and Evil are NOT relative terms. If we disagree about what is good and what is evil, it is because one of us, or both of us, is WRONG. I think my discussion about man’s inherent rights [the rational standard for judging good and evil on this planet] made my point irrefutably clear. You are wrong, and if the US continues to move in the direction you promote [socialism] that evil will be your grandchildren’s REALITY. Dying Europe will go first, so I hope in your lifetime you will get to see firsthand how the TRUTH will most certainly out. Inherent INDIVIDUAL rights cannot be compromised without destroying the lives and liberty of all men.
Donn
Donn,
Not incorrigible, you keep defending them. Stop washing your hands of them when they say things you can no longer defend.
Marx
Marx,
I've checked the record...I have not once [in our discussion] defended the 2008 version of John McCain!
Donn
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"For instance, there's John McCain whining about how much money Obama took from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but NO one is pointing out that HIS campaign took nearly 30,000 a week from them for almost 2 years."
Yet John McCain isn't known for raking in the biggest amount in campaign contributions (in all Presidential campaigns) like President Barack Hussein Obama is. And a matter of a fact, it was FannieMae and FreddyMac who are ultimately responsible for the crisis we are in today, along with of course Barney Skank, I mean Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd. Obama is the one who took money from people who are resonsible for the economic "crisis". So it was "your boy" Marcus who is the one who should be bearing guilt for taking money, not Senator McCain who was just running his campaign. So now President Obama is rewarding all his old crony crooks by bailing them out.
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